Debate: Which country players are best in KOF?

Hi friends,
Ye topic taqreban har forum mein hota hai, from orochinagi to CX to mein ne socha ke yahan bhi hona chahiyay. Kyun ab 2DF, GGPO etc ki waja se sb ko Different countries ke different best players ka pata hai to sawal ye hai keh konsa country KOF mein top pe kaha ja sakta hai? KOF 98 and KOF 2k2 ko discuss kren.
Is baray mein ek baat kehna chahon ga keh aksar forums pe ye baat bhi kehtay hain log ke kof 2k2 mein mexican ya phir latin americans keh lein, wo best hai aur baqi kof 98 etc mein asia.
Aap ki kya raaiy hai?

i think in KOF 98
China
KOF 2k2
Barazil,Taiwan

Brazil se aaj kal sirf Buchecha ke matches aa rahe hain, wahi out of country ja ke khel raha hai Peru etc mein. Old CX ke waqt Brazil walon ne 2 tournament 2k2 ke krwaiy thay, 1. Press Start Tourney 2. Diadema Tourney, Un tournaments mein jo players khelay thay, wo sab ke sab (siwaiy nightmare) gaming scene se out hain is time.
And what you think about Mexico?

me too think so china is the best in 98 and i dont know about 2k2

Maxico got many good players of 2k2.
Korea also got some good 2k2 players

Taiwanian rocks in 2k2 GGPO

guys u r forgetting Pakistan in kof 98 nd 2k2

As I know, Pakistan ka gaming level 98 mein strong samjha jata hai aur aksar forums pe mein ne China ke bad Pakistan ka naam dekha hai kof 98 ki jahan baat ho mgr 2k2 mein pakistani players ki kabhi na koi achi videos aai hain na koi aisa proof publish hoa hai keh is ko 2k2 mein bhi gina ja sakay.
So we can say everyone know that in 98 it is china and in 2k2, yes Shaharyar Taiwan owned Japanese & other asians. Taiwan ka sab se famous player Chen Suiyang jo ke GGPO pe 10101010 ke naam se aata hai (ya aata tha) hai jo Kim, benimaru & yagami se japan ke best players ko beat kr chuka hai.
Debate continues...............................................

best players in 2k2 is Toxic from pakistan

in kof 98 of course faisal molvi

Well, to b honest most of the world dun even count SBS(Side By Side)... SBS is just nothing in their thoughts even if some SBS player beat H2H player (on SBS machine) 1000:0 they ll still dun count it even 1:0...thats the fact in China/Jap/Korea etc..They call it cheap game so in fact we r nowhere near Top (in their minds) in any game Except puzzle bobble lol.
Thats y they also dun count mexico/brazil/peru etc in 2k2 coz they also mostly play on SBS.

So in H2H best players we r nowhere in that best players ranking in any Arcade game may b only in SF2CE(thanx to xfighter).
In H2H best players of KOF 97,98 r from China, KOF 2k2 r from Twn/Jpn.

But since H2H machines r expensive n no Arcade in PK have it so we have to play on SBS machines. so in my mind if there is a SBS best player ranking, Pakistan is Undisputed # 1 in all games.KOF94-2k2.SF2CE. etc

In SBS Pak 97,98 >>> china 97,98. Pak 2k2 >>> Kor/Jap/Twn 2k2
but in 2k2 Pak vs Mex/Brz/Arg will b tough coz they only play 2k2 for long time on SBS, they also have some of the very best players.

You are right that our good player are not used to H2H but the problem is this they don't take H2H seriously. Like playing online is good platform to built ur skils for H2H machines but our good players think that online is just useless and they don't come to face the kids even all good players have DSL that's why in 2k2 pak don't have any name
The main difference which develop playing H2H is that ur speed of attacks plus combos skills increases bcz u don’t have to sit back and wait for opponent’s attack and if all good 2k2 players keep coming online there is no chance that they can’t be used to this.

i agree with u guys but i feel pak got some realy good players in 98 likes of bilal so i theink we have to develop our own rating system in each kof part specialy in 97 , 98 and 2k2 to create some interest other wise people come here for just sake of fun
one more thing me too against that SBS game play kion k yar bari phenti parti h bahar but i played with some players outside those who ranked themselves after molvi here in lhr i felt that i stil can beat them so we have to develop system by which a gud player like to play online and try to create their impact

Yeah Wild Beast... we should support online...gaming...
One day this lag problem will completely solve..
Regarding H2H, I believe.. I am much better than side by side.. and mostly Online good players of west and East came from Side by Side..
so this is not a big issue... Side by Side players will be use to.. if they continue playing online...
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Rashidfahim, Regarding 0101010101, you are right.. he came before.. but now his name was copied by spammers add more binary digits in it... no one will know XD

Online gaming is liye bhi difficult hai for some players because is mein sab "kharcha" apni pocket se kerna parta hai. Net connection bhi apnay paison se, Handle bhi apna banwao aur is ko fix kerwana bhi kam difficult nahi because har kisi ka apna setup hota hai PC ka, kuch log fix ker saktay hain wahan handle but other can't. Mein khud handle fix nahi ker sakta because mein ne khelnay ke bad handle hide bhi kerna hota hai.
I think hum ko support kerna chahiyay apnay achay players ko, wo is tarah ke un ko online game kra ke kyun ke har arcade player online gaming afford nahi ker sakta. Many of us do it like shaharyar bilal & others but many other don't do.
Yara, mein karachi mein hota to connect wana connection le ke ek shop mein lagwa ke online gaming center bnata jis mein kam se kam paison se online gaming kerwata achay players ko but can't do it in Punjab and specially now a days (searching for a good job).

what basically classify a player to be called the best? how can we rate a player? we should define the criteria so we can judge a player accordingly. for many of us we think the one we cant beat is the best so what u people say

Leon wrote:

what basically classify a player to be called the best? how can we rate a player? we should define the criteria so we can judge a player accordingly. for many of us we think the one we cant beat is the best so what u people say

Its really hard to judge someone's skill because there are so many things matters.
1 cheez jo sab se pehle aati hai, wo defense hai, jb player pe rushdown attack kia jaiy aur wo bokhla jaiy mtlb us ka defense weak hai. Aur ye mein ne dekha hai keh jo kof ko lambay arsay se khel rahe hain, jinhon ne old kof parts khelay howay hain like kof 97 or 98, they are very good in defense. Those who start playing just before 4 or 5 years ago and played only one part such as kof 2k2 like me, are not that good in defense.
2nd cheez jis ko mein kafi count krta hon wo rushdown tricks hain because it is very important to win quick matches like tournament etc. And you need rushdown skill to defeat players who have weak defense.
3rd thing I guess is random play, Mera matlab ye hai keh tricks change ker ker ke khelna jo ke aap ki game ko attractive bnata hai. In 2k2 aap billy le ke sara din fwd A and down C se matches jeet saktay hain mgr ye boht cheap and boring lagta hai, using different tricks and using different players with good skill kisi bhi player ke standard ko show kerta hai.

Its just my opinion. Agree or don't agree.......

@ Rashidfahim
its not like that man... I even cant afford a handle I use to play on Keyboard.. I was also searching a job but at that time also I play KOF online coz, of home tuitions KOF k liye kuch bhi kre ga yar......
You are right we should support other ppls.. like mn humza ko motivate kr raha hoon and he is also agree. ab wo even PTCL k office ja kr ek form bhi nahi la ska

@ Leon
The general criteria can be lie in two category (where I think)
A) Undefeated
B) Defeated but performed good games i.e Combos, Doughs.